Danish escort scene

[cjh 28]

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First of all, I apologies for writing in English. My skills in Danish writing are not so good. Feel free to reply in Danish, though. I read it without any problems.

I have been in this business (as a customer) for quite a few years now. My first experience was actually in Denmark, but since then most of the meetings has taken place in London. And there is a good reason for that, which is also the reason I am writing this post.

As most people (at least so I think) would agree, it is difficult to objectively compare the experiences you can get in this business. After all, it is an experience that is shared, and both the specific situation and the specific people involved, as well as their mood at the moment, will influence how the outcome will be. But from my own experience, it is clear that there are at least two (maybe more), very different, kind of - let’s call it experiences - that are being asked for and offered.

One is the straight forward "get it done quickly" model, which at least I would call the most common and basic service. The one you will find at clinics or brothels, as well as from the street sellers. The other one being more related to the escort scene, with longer meetings.

Let me describe a typical situation for me in London: I would normally meet a girl that I have met before, or one that is recommended by either a girl I know or an agency that I trust (and who knows me and my preferences). We would meet at my hotel around 18:00-19:00. After clearing the financial transaction (by a discrete envelope handed over to her), we would either go for a dinner or a theatre show, or even both. After that, we would maybe have a drink at a bar, or in the hotel bar. And at some point we would get to the room, and without stress have some nice time together. Then some sleep, and in the morning a breakfast in the room (and if both are in the mood, maybe some morning action - although I am usually too tired for that).

As you can see, this is quite different from the clinic model that seems to be the most common here in Denmark. But also quite different from the Danish escort scene - or at least the one that I have experience from.

I can understand the market for the quickie sessions, and it is of course a different kind of customers (and also providers) that are in that market. But is it really not a market for my kind of experience here in Denmark? Or why are there no such providers? Or is it just that I can't find them? Because in London they are easy to find. But here I have not really found something comparable.

Of course, you could just hire a girl from one of the Danish escort agencies for 8-10 hours, but based on my shorter experience with a (very) few of these girls it would not end up being the same type of experience. It is not just about the time, it is more a question about how the girls approach to the job is. The girls that I look for in UK, does not see more than 1 or 2 (usually only 1) customer per day - and although overnights are not the most common booking, they usually have bookings of 2-3 or more hours. I have no illusions that they are not into this for the money, but they for sure make it look like it is not an industrial job. You don't get a feeling that you are just one in a big line of people before and after you.

Another thing that I would like to mention is that it is also obvious that there is not a direct connection between the prices and the quality. The experience I described above would cost between 6000 and 10000 DKK (excluding food and any tickets) depending on which agency one use. In Denmark, it could cost 10000 - 15000. And then, what I believe would be with a less good experience.

So my question, to all of you out there (boys and girls), is: is there really not a market for this in Denmark? And potential providers (of course, if there are no customers then there will never be any providers)? Or have I missed something?

Thanks for reading, and I hope and look forward to your thoughts.

 

 

Redigeret 8. Maj, 2016 af cjh

[Jernsvinet 13841]

cjh skrev, for 56 minutter siden:

So my question, to all of you out there (boys and girls), is: is there really not a market for this in Denmark? And potential providers (of course, if there are no customers then there will never be any providers)? Or have I missed something?

I think You must invest more time in it, than just calling an Agency.

Have You tried:

https://sugardaters.dk/

Also I think You could go to some brothels, have some shorter or longer sessions with girls of the type You like and ask the best of them, if they would like to meet You for a hole night stand, as You have described above - that way You can awoid engaging up with a girl You don´t like - or don´t like You  The girl can also ask a lower price, as she don´t have to pay any Agency - or just because she likes You and would like to have a nice time with You

Redigeret 8. Maj, 2016 af Jernsvinet

[frenchlover1 4116]

On escortguide.dk I have seen quite a few easteuropean girls  offering one night in CPH for 7.000 DKK.

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[Claire 4321]

I started out as an escort in Paris, and worked some in London too, I dont think, the price is way different. 
In London there's a ton of Eastern European, latin and Russian girls, who "dump" the prices, like here in Denmark, but as a Scandinavian, I believe the average price for a full night, is around 1800- 2300 Euro, atleast it was, 3 yrs ago. I worked alone first, and later for an agency. 

You can get the same thing in Denmark as in London, you just have that much more to chose from in London, and girls are more used to the all nighters, 
I think the main difference between London and Copenhagen, is the costumors, and they form the market. 
If there was alot of men, willing to pay for whole nights, there'd be alot of girls who offered it. 
(although, you probably wouldn't find alot of Danish girls, if your pricerange is around 7000dk, but you wont find Scandinavian girls, in that pricerange in London either)
I charge (starting from) 15000 for a full night, the thing with the money in the envelope is not that common, it's usually done by men on their first visit. 
 

If what you are actually asking for, is the typical EroGuide Topic "Where can I find the best and cheapest girls", then I cant help you.  

 

Edi:t havde ikke lige set, at det er en gammel tråd french fik hevet frem  

Redigeret 5. Januar, 2017 af Claire

[cjh 28]

Hi,

No, I am not asking "Where can I find the best and cheapest girls" - but I am asking where I can find the best girls for the style of meeting I describe. 

The thing I learned in London is that the cost is not related to the quality. I have a few girls I have seen many times, that came from the £600 (overnight) agency and they are in my opinion among the very best ones. The highest amount I paid I think was £1600, and it was good but not as good as the others. 

It seems like if you want to spend the whole (or at least most of it) having sex, then the higher priced girls is maybe the better choise. But for an evening described above, the less professional (this is not a very good description, but the only one I could come up with) gives a better and more relaxed meeting. 

 But as Claire writes, (and I also suggested my self in the original post) I guess this is a question about what the general client is looking for - the demands sets the market. And in London you'll find both kind of clients and both kind of providers. 

And I have seen a few girls in Copenhagen for overnights, but it is some time ago, and it was just not the same thing. Hence my original post. 

[Claire 4321]

I think most of the escortgirls offer full nights, even if it's not written in their add So maybe just find a girl you like, and ask her if she'd be interested?
If I was to book a girl for a full night, I'd probably like to meet her first for a short visit, just to make sure she's the right one..

 

[Kindhesten80 765]

cjh skrev, den 9/5/2016 at 00:40:

First of all, I apologies for writing in English. My skills in Danish writing are not so good. Feel free to reply in Danish, though. I read it without any problems.

I have been in this business (as a customer) for quite a few years now. My first experience was actually in Denmark, but since then most of the meetings has taken place in London. And there is a good reason for that, which is also the reason I am writing this post.

As most people (at least so I think) would agree, it is difficult to objectively compare the experiences you can get in this business. After all, it is an experience that is shared, and both the specific situation and the specific people involved, as well as their mood at the moment, will influence how the outcome will be. But from my own experience, it is clear that there are at least two (maybe more), very different, kind of - let’s call it experiences - that are being asked for and offered.

One is the straight forward "get it done quickly" model, which at least I would call the most common and basic service. The one you will find at clinics or brothels, as well as from the street sellers. The other one being more related to the escort scene, with longer meetings.

Let me describe a typical situation for me in London: I would normally meet a girl that I have met before, or one that is recommended by either a girl I know or an agency that I trust (and who knows me and my preferences). We would meet at my hotel around 18:00-19:00. After clearing the financial transaction (by a discrete envelope handed over to her), we would either go for a dinner or a theatre show, or even both. After that, we would maybe have a drink at a bar, or in the hotel bar. And at some point we would get to the room, and without stress have some nice time together. Then some sleep, and in the morning a breakfast in the room (and if both are in the mood, maybe some morning action - although I am usually too tired for that).

As you can see, this is quite different from the clinic model that seems to be the most common here in Denmark. But also quite different from the Danish escort scene - or at least the one that I have experience from.

I can understand the market for the quickie sessions, and it is of course a different kind of customers (and also providers) that are in that market. But is it really not a market for my kind of experience here in Denmark? Or why are there no such providers? Or is it just that I can't find them? Because in London they are easy to find. But here I have not really found something comparable.

Of course, you could just hire a girl from one of the Danish escort agencies for 8-10 hours, but based on my shorter experience with a (very) few of these girls it would not end up being the same type of experience. It is not just about the time, it is more a question about how the girls approach to the job is. The girls that I look for in UK, does not see more than 1 or 2 (usually only 1) customer per day - and although overnights are not the most common booking, they usually have bookings of 2-3 or more hours. I have no illusions that they are not into this for the money, but they for sure make it look like it is not an industrial job. You don't get a feeling that you are just one in a big line of people before and after you.

Another thing that I would like to mention is that it is also obvious that there is not a direct connection between the prices and the quality. The experience I described above would cost between 6000 and 10000 DKK (excluding food and any tickets) depending on which agency one use. In Denmark, it could cost 10000 - 15000. And then, what I believe would be with a less good experience.

So my question, to all of you out there (boys and girls), is: is there really not a market for this in Denmark? And potential providers (of course, if there are no customers then there will never be any providers)? Or have I missed something?

Thanks for reading, and I hope and look forward to your thoughts.

 

 

Wow you must be loaded, if you are able to blow off more than 10.000kr. on one night. This sounds like quite an expensive hobby of yours.

[cjh 28]

Or, it could be that I meet one girl in the same period as some of you meet 10...

But sure, it can be an expensive hobby!

[Guest Mette Tøsen]

@cjh for the kind of date you're describing, I think there are two issues: First of all safety; 10 hours is a lot longer time for something to go wrong than one hour, especially if you have to be there over night. I would want to meet a guy once or twice first, make sure the chemistry was right for conversation, and I'd definitely want to feel a bit more safe with him than usual if I was to spend the entire night.

But mainly I think it's about the market. Many guys have asked me about dinner and movie dates, but they give up when they realise they're gonna have to pay for all my time, and not just a couple of grand for the sex time + dinner and tickets.

The other side of the market is also that there's a lot more people in London than in cph, a lot more girls and therefore more competition, so girls gotta be willing to do more, give more to compete.

Maybe it would be a good idea for you to describe to a girl what you're looking for when you first make contact, but by your  own volition offer to drop by for the usual shorter meeting once or twice first, so she can get to know you a bit and see if you're the kind of guy she wants to spend an entire night with. That way, she can take a little time to think about if that is even something she would ever want to do.

 

Redigeret 7. Januar, 2017 af Mette Tøsen

[cjh 28]

Mette, I think you have several good points in your reply. And the idea to meet someone for a shorter time, to see if the chemistry is there, has both struck my mind and being tested.

The girls that I have seen in London, rarley see more than one client per day. they do mainly 2-4 hour meetings, and not very often 1 hours. Never shorter. Many of them only offer outcalls. This results in a couple of things; they get into each meeting with more poisitive energy and thay tend to treat each customer as he was unique. It feels much less of "shop" or "market" than it does in denmark. Even with some of the Danish escort agencies it feels very mechanlical. As a customer you feel more "special". 

It seems like the average (customer) needs are simply different - or at least that the segment that I am looking in does not cater for the same customers as the part of the Danish market seems to do.

You also mention the prices, and how customers may react on them. I for sure, and I believe the same goes for anyone looking for the same as me, believe that the girls shoud be payed for all their time - being it theatres or bed games.  I also dont expect an overnight to be 12 hours full of sex - it should include both a decent amount of sleep as well as some kind of dinner or food. This is usually also reflected in the prices - as an eample one agencey has £300 for one hour, £500 for two hours and £1500 for 10-12 hours (depends on the agency and the girl). That is, in my view, a fair way of setting the price, and I don't have any problems with it. My favorite english agencey though, stops the ladder att £600 for an overnight (£400 for 4 hours). Still, some of the very best girls I have met works there, so there is no guarantee for a equal sign between quality and price. A quick calculation from one the escort acgencies in Copehagen, gives 16200 DKK for 10 hours, there is no steps after the very first hour. The signal that sends to me is that they are not that interested in longer bookings - something that is also often confirmed by the atititude of the girls when you book lets say 2 hours. I have manly experienced this from the agency girls from the big, well known, agencies. Independents or girls from smaller "agencies" does not usually show this in the same way.

The best way I can describe the difference I am talking about is that in denmark it is more like a service that "shall be delivered", almost like calling the local pizza take-away, where as in London it is an experience that to some extent is shared amongst both persons.

So this is for me not so much about money as it is about value (who the person is, and how she looks at her customer). But with that said, if the difference between two girls overnight is £900, and most of the time spent will be dinner, theatre and sleep - leaving maybe 2 hours for sexual games - then it takes some kind of skills from the girl in order for me to choose the most expensive one. And no, I have never met a £1500 / night girl without first having seen her before (either at a shorter meeting, or from a cheaper agency).

Redigeret 7. Januar, 2017 af cjh

[Bebop 9504]

cjh skrev, den 5/9/2016 at 00:40:

I can understand the market for the quickie sessions, and it is of course a different kind of customers (and also providers) that are in that market. But is it really not a market for my kind of experience here in Denmark? Or why are there no such providers? Or is it just that I can't find them? Because in London they are easy to find. But here I have not really found something comparable.

Easy: London is full of very and extremely wealthy to whom the prices you mention are negligible. Copenhagen not so much ... So the difference is the much smaller size of demand explaining the next to non-existing supply. At least in terms of marketed as a concept. As others mention, however, it's probably possible to negotiate a deal with some girls/agencies, but perhaps with questionable luck, as you propose yourself.

This is an example of an independent copenhagen based with the required concept (found by simple googling): http://copenhagengfeescort.com/encounters-with-emma-moore.html

Google provides a couple more.

Redigeret 10. Januar, 2017 af Bebop

[KnaldeBriks 182]

Bebop skrev, for 17 minutter siden:

This is an example of an independent copenhagen based with the required concept (found by simple googling): http://copenhagengfeescort.com/encounters-with-emma-moore.html

Som USD-betalende gæst ville jeg godt nok føle mig snydt, de aktuelle valutakurser taget i betragtning.

[Bebop 9504]

KnaldeBriks skrev, for 20 minutter siden:

Som USD-betalende gæst ville jeg godt nok føle mig snydt, de aktuelle valutakurser taget i betragtning.

Ja, omregningen er sat efter en kurs der er ca. 2½-3½ år gammel.